[Linux-Biella] openoffice e importa file

[Luigidigi]

CIARROCCHI Paolo wrote:


> Libranet 2.7 (che e' liberamente scaricabile) e' basata su 
> woody, percio' decisamente non aggiornta.
> Aggiornarla con una semplice dial up mi sembra un po' 
> faticoso, IMHO.

É vero. La tua situazione é imposibile, senza banda ancha, tu hai
che depender de le distros que sacan una verzione nuova cada 3-6 mesi.
Se tu hai banda ancha, allora, la cosa cambia, non hai che escaricare un 
iso nuovo, usando la banda, tu fai un apt-get update/upgrade e é
fatto automaticamente, escaricando l'ultimo cambio nella distribuzioni.
Só toma 5 minuti se lo face ogni giorno como io. Sono obsesivo, non 
voglio waste time facendo esto. Il mio tempo é oro.

> Mi consigliate di aspettare che SARGE diventi stabile 
> in modo da scaricarmi le iso ?
> 
> 		Paolo {molto perplesso} C.


Scuzi, pero ho che spiegare en inglese, questo é molto importante!

Short answer:

No! you don't have to wait, you can do it now, it's stable enough.

Long answer:

Ok. You have to understand the philosophy of Debian. They are slow, 
ultra-conservative (they are politically to the right of Mussolini), 
they don't give a shit what you like, or what most young geeks like, 
they are hard core linux fanatics. They are very stable. They don't care 
what the latest program are, all they care about is that the distro 
don't crash, that apt-get works perfectly, that people who deal with 
servers do not have to worry about fixing anything, therefore, they got 
the three different versions: Woody, Sarge, and Sid.

If you go to Gentoo, Slack and RH, you probably have the latest app 
right off the bat, but you got to d/l the latest version every few 
months. They use RPMS and Ports, different versions of apt-get (Emerge 
and Urpmi, Apt-get rpms, or whatever) and most young users like to have 
the latest.

Now, there is a misunderstanding about Woody and Sarge (Stable and 
Testing) done on purpose by Debian. This is because they are obsesive 
about crashes. IMHO, if you have a server or an ancient 486, use Woody 
(do a minimal install, it comes Ext2 file system); for desktop use Sarge 
(you get more newer apps, like Mozilla-Firebird) and more up to date in 
the rest of the apps repository, but not the latest. Example: in Woody 
and Sarge you will get Moz 1.0, but in Sarge, Firebird 0.6.1, same with 
mc and the rest, in Sid you will get Moz 1.4 (you can use Ext3 or 
ReiserFs) Both are STABLE.

I use Sid because I'm the way I am: reckless, I want to have the latest, 
fly with the eagles, I actually enjoy getting in trouble.

But I am very careful, I follow the instructions to the letter at the 
debian site, i maintain Sid up to date, and have never experienced any 
crashes, any problems, with Sid, it gives me OOo 1.1, XFCE4, Gnome 2.4, 
or whatever i want, or i go to apt-get.org and install programs from the 
other crazies who can't wait for Sid or hang around in the IRC at #Debian.

I'm not afraid of re-installing, i've fucked up so many times, that i've 
become an expert at installing, not because i'm smart but because of 
exactly the opposite, the only thing I got going for myself is that i'm 
not afraid. Capito?

So, go ahead, download, carry your tower to vodafone, update/upgrade, or 
better yet, download Knoppix 3.3, you'll have KDE, fluxbox, icewm, 
windowmaker, latest apps, etc, good way to start debian, and if you like 
it, install it to the hdd. If you look at the /etc/sources.list you will
see a mixture of Woody, Sid, Sarge, extra-official repositories like 
marillat.fr :)

If I were you, because you got dial-up and want only to try Debian, I 
would stick with Knoppix. When it comes to installing it to the hdd, 
I'll explain some stuff to you so you can have your italian keyboard, 
language, 3 button mouse running, etc.

Sorry for the length of the reply, my wife is always complaining i'm too 
quiet, except when it comes to LINUX! :))

Later,

Luigi